Hančová-Kauca-Fuksa obhájili titul mistrů trojic
(AKTUALIZOVÁNO) Alice Hančová, Jindřich Kauca a Petr Fuksa jsou staronovými mistry trojic. Po roce, jako 15. nasazení, obhájili své mistrovské pozice. Cestu k vítězství jim nezatarasilo tropické horko, průtrž mračen, krupobití ani půlnoční tma.
Změny propozic na poslední chvíli připomněly hráčům republikového mistrovství v Praze – Troji, že by trojice měly mít jednotné oblečení. A na nástupu pak pořadatelé vyhlásili i jistou toleranci (vzhledem k avizovanému horku) k odhaleným ramenům a kolenům.
A horko bylo. Asi na 90 meteorologických stanicích po celém Česku padly teplotní rekordy. Zkrátka to byl letos nejrozpálenější den. Hráči, kteří si donesli deštník, protože předpověď mluvila i o bouři, jej použili jako slunečník. Stín byla dopoledne nejdražší komodita. A hadice proměněná na sprchu nejednomu rozpálenému pétanquerovi dobře posloužila.
Hodiny a hodiny
Hracím systémem mistrovství pro 89 týmů byly skupiny na dvě výhry. (Pro někoho na dvě prohry.) Děravé skupiny pro nejvýše nasazené ale znamenaly peklo v podobě nekonečného čekání. Odehrát jeden zápas za devět hodin není zrovna to, po čem by se dalo toužit. Pokud si člověk nechtěl zároveň prohlédnout sochy Jiřího Příhody či pražskou kameninu v zámecké galerii. Jinou alternativou byla třeba plasérská soutěž, nebo dovednostní soutěže týmů z extraligy.
Kvůli zvolenému systému byl turnaj hodně rozplizlý. Navíc nesynchronní vývoj znamenal, že zatímco někde se ještě hrála baráž ve skupinách, na opačném konci trojského zámeckého parku se už hrálo KO64. Stejně tak se zároveň se hrála utkání čtvrtfinále i teprve o postup do KO32. Hřiště byla roztrkaná po rozích a nikdo vlastně nevěděl, kdo míří za vítězstvím. Kdyby se čtvrtfinále soustředilo na jednom místě, mohli diváci sledovat zajímavé zápasy.
Jako švestky
A pak to přišlo. Meteo výstraha zahnala do kotců zvířata ve vedlejší zoo a na hráče spadlo pár kapek. Že by toto bylo všechno? Nebylo. Druhý deštík zrychleně přešel do stavu průtrže mračen, a když pomalu přestávala a Petr Mrázek žertem poznamenal „trochu vody,“ došlo i na krupobití. A pořádné. Ledové kuličky padaly z nebe mezi větvemi stromů a bubnovaly do hráčů, kteří si kryli hlavy. Někteří i zvednutými lavičkami. Přesto se pod stromy ozývala syknutí a bolestivé výkřiky. Těžko říci, jak dlouho to doopravdy trvalo, ale bylo to neuvěřitelně dlouhé, možná delší, než ty hodiny čekání ve vedru.
„Většinou jsou jako třešně, občas jako švestky,“ přirovnával pak led v trávníku Jaroslav Ševčík. A Jana Krpcová tvrdila, že jí František Kaplánek taškou nad hlavou zachránil život.
Ačkoliv to ještě před chvílí nevypadalo, vyčasilo se. Jinými slovy, přestalo pršet a teplota příliš neklesla. Turnaj mohl ve vlhku prádelny s přízemní mlhou pokračovat. Druhá bouře měla teprve přijít.
Dvě repre
Ve čtvrtfinále se potkaly reprezentace mužů a žen a čtveřice hráček zápas jasně ovládla. Michálci s Hodboděm a Konšelem do té doby zahráli jen čtyři zápasy a nedokázali se dostat do hry, navíc si Konšel pohnul se zády a Ivu Michálkovi nesedl oběd.
Koneckonců s obědem měli nakonec problém všichni. Ale z úplně jiného důvodu, museli na něj vystát frontu, která nezměnila polohu ani po desítkách minut. Rozmrzelost postihla i druhý proud čekající na čep. Ať už to bylo pivo či limo, jeden kelímek se plnil tak dlouho, že za tu dobu družice přeletí Indický oceán. Když to Michal Zdobinský ušmudlanému personálu vytknul, zpocený bufeťák na něj vyjel: „To jste vy, vás si pamatuji, vy jste tady prudil už před dvěma lety.“
Vášně cateringu ale vzaly za své právě bouřkou. Po ní byl klid. „Stánek s občerstvením byl stejný jako v roce 2014 a myslela jsem si, že ještě vychytají mouchy z předloňska. Osobně jsem se ujišťovala, že stánek má na sobotu dostatek lidí a že nebude problém s dostatečným přísunem chlazených nápojů, případně ledu. Bohužel to ale vypadalo celé jinak,“ omlouvala se za pořadatele Veronika Slobodová. Za led nemusela, toho bylo dost.
Bouře číslo 2
Průběh turnaje nabízel možnost zopakování loňského finále, nakonec do něj ale postoupil jen tým Jindřicha Kauci. Kdyby Miroslav Řehoř s Martinem Škopkem a Zdeňkem Šedivým uhráli o dva body více, mělo finále stejné složení jako loni. Trojice Řehoř-Škopek-Šedivý nakonec nestačila na ženskou reprezentaci, která podávala kvalitní výkony po celý den.
Semifinále se již hrála za umělého osvětlení, ale kvůli silné blížící se bouři musely být všechny zápasy přerušeny, světla vypnuta a uklizena. Jury turnaje řešila, co dál, pokud silný déšť a blesky neustanou. Nakonec se po pauze pokračovalo u vstupní brány, kde byly zabudované lampy. V půl jedné už se dalo znovu hrát i v tričku.
Vinou druhé bouřky se turnaj protáhl a skončil až po první hodině nedělního dne. To už na místě nebyl hlavní rozhodčí Martin Bartoš. „Ukončil svou činnost před zahájením finále a boje o třetí místo. Důvodem bylo, že měl v autě nezletilou hráčku, jejíž rodiče bombardovali telefonáty všechny možné Vrchlabáky, aby ji dovezl domů, protože druhý den ráno někam odjíždějí,“ uvedl delegát turnaje Jiří Koreš starší. Podle něj Bartošův odjezd nijak neovlivnil průběh turnaje, ani rozhodování jury.
Bartoš mistrovství zpětně komentoval jako organizačně nevydařené. „Také proto, že některé týmy nebo jednotlivci nedokázali respektovat pokyny pořadatele a odjížděli bez ohlášení. Po krupobití už nefungovalo ozvučení a osvětlení se muselo uklidit před druhou bouřkou, protože kabeláž byla nedostatečně zajištěná proti dešti,“ argumentoval Bartoš.
Neplánovaná obhajoba
Ve finále už byla ženská reprezentace unavená a nedokázala zopakovat výkony z předchozích zápasů, a tak bez větších dramat dokázal tým Hančová-Kauca-Fuksa obhájit titul. Celý turnaj, všech sedm zápasů, odehráli bez jediné porážky a většího zaváhání. Až na drobné výjimky hráli útočný pétanque.
Vítězka Alice Hančová označila mistrovství trojic za nezapomenutelný sportovní zážitek v nádherném prostředí. „Nejtěžší byl pro mě zápas ve dvaatřicítce s týmem z Jablonce. Vrcholilo horko, blížila se bouřka a soupeř hrál moc dobře,“ uvedla Hančová.
Recept na vítězství odhalil Petr Fuksa. „Dokázali jsme se maximálně zkoncentrovat na náš nejdůležitější turnaj sezóny. Je zajímavé, že první tři zápasy jsme hráli docela vyrovnaně, ale pak se objevily fanynky z Prahy 1 a najednou body na naší straně skákaly nějak rychleji,“ popsal Fuksa. Přiznal ale, že když Daniel Bílek na začátku semifinále dával jedno carreau za druhým, museli se hodně snažit. Právě Vrchlabané pak zvládli lépe utkání o bronz.
Podle Jindřicha Kauci je obhajoba vždy těžší, než mistrovský titul vyhrát poprvé. „Naším cílem určitě nebylo titul obhájit, ale pokusit se o to, abychom si hru užili stejně jako loni. Startovní listina do role favoritů řadila jiné týmy než ten náš. Snažili jsme se hrou bavit, ale zároveň se koncentrovat na každou kouli. Mně osobně pomáhala zkušenost Alice a asi pomohla i k tomu, že jsem všichni podali životní výkon,“ komentoval vítězství Kauca. První záchvěv trémy se u něj mihnul až v semifinále, kdy mu došlo, že by mohl skončit čtvrtý. To se nakonec stalo trojici z pražského Frapeca.
Text: Jan Michálek, Pavel Konečný
Foto: Veronika Slobodová, Pavel Konečný
Výsledky:
1.
Alice Hančová (1. KPK Vrchlabí)
Jindřich Kauca (PC Kolová)
Petr Fuksa (UBU Únětice)
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Hana Šrubařová (Carreau Brno)
Lucie Venclová (1. KPK Vrchlabí)
Sylva Mrázková (PC Kolová)
Romana Hodboďová (POP Praha)
3.
Daniel Bílek (1. KPK Vrchlabí)
Pavel Mašek (1. KPK Vrchlabí)
Vladimír Brázda (1. KPK Vrchlabí)
Ahoj Všem.
Nikdy se nezúčastňuji diskuzí na těchto stránkách, ale tentokrát nemohu jinak. Když jsem si přečetla o tom, že někteří z Vás byli nespokojeni proto, že na MČR dvojic v Kolové chyběla na guláši cibule, přišlo mi to úsměvné. Dnes, po MČR trojic v Tróji mi to již nepřijde úsměvné, ale trapné.
Ještě před samotným začátkem turnaje jsem si chtěla ve stánku koupit studenou vodu, protože moje dovezená byla již teplá. Na můj dotaz, zda mají studenou vodu, poukázala dáma za pultíkem na malé vody stojící na pultíku se slovy, že tady mají vodu. Když jsem se tvářila nespokojeně, že je teplá, nabídla mi kelímek a led. Souhlasila jsem tedy. Paní sáhla svou upocenou rukou do boxu, vyndala dvě kostky ledu, hodila je do kelímku, já zaplatila 20,.Kč a odešla s pomyšlením“hygiena nade vše“.Netušila jsem, že v hlavním městě nepoužívají lednice,jednorázové rukavice, nebo vodu na omytí rukou,my na vesnici už dávno.
A to nemluvím ještě o jídle. Poprvé za celé roky, co jezdím po turnajích, jsem si poprvé neudělala svačinu, protože jsem se bála, že se mi zkazí, tak že si raději něco koupím.I přesto, že jsme měli mezi dvěma zápasy více než hodinovou prodlevu, protože jsme čekali na soupeře, neměli jsme žádnou šanci se propracovat k obědu, přes nepostupující frontu. Pokud vím, nebyli jsme sami. Navíc, když jsem zjistila, že k obědu je burgr(mleté maso) , které velmi rychle podléhá zkáze, navíc v tak extrémních podmínkách, které včera byly, přešla mě i chuť. O salmonelu opravdu nestojím. Obsluha brala maso do nemytých rukou, do kterých brala i lístky a peníze, ne děkuji nechci.
Tak tedy, za celý den jsem měla dva koláčky, které jsem si ráno vzala, třetí, který jsem si kouypila v cukrárně, když nás postihla nepřízeň počasí a můj tým na tom byl stejně. Šetřili jsme vodou, kterou jsme si dovezli, aby nám náhodou nedošla, protože šance na koupi další byla vlastně nulová.
Za celé roky co jezdím po turnajích, jsem nic takového nezažila. Největší keteringový propadák, bez možnosti se najíst a koupit si vodu.Tragédie, nevídané, to by se na turnaji tohoto formátu opravdu stát nemělo.
Upřímně? Těšila jsem se na to, až pojedeme domů a já dám někde na pumpě něco k pití“ a dokonce studeného“ a dám si něco k jídlu, protože jsem byla celý den o hladu.
Pro mě byl tento turnaj obrovským zklamáním.
Mějte se a hezký zbytek dne, LPL
Soutěžní řád čl. 18
Možnost občerstvení = propadák
Úkryt před deštěm = absolutní tragedie
Pokud je toto možné na MČR, proč vůbec takovéto dokumenty máme?
Chtěl bych se všem jménem organizátorů omluvit. Catering byl skutečně propadák a turnaj trpěl i dalšími neduhy.
Byla to naše chyba.
O.P.
Pš: Gratulují vítězům a dalším medailistům. Byl to opravdu sportovní výkon v nepřízni….
Děkuji pořadatelům za uspořádání turnaje v tak krásném prostředí. Já jsem si jej moc užila. ( je pravda, že na slabší catering jsem se připravila dostatkem pití a svačinou). Ale rozhodně to byl nádherný turnaj. Díky.
Prostředí nádherné, catering těžká tragédie (bohužel s tou hygienou to fakt bylo docela nechutné), hospodští naprostí amatéři (nechápu, jak je může taková práce živit), bouřka nevadila, naopak se mi líbila, i když jsem byl mokrý jako myš..Hodně špatné bylo to, že někteří účastníci bez omluvy odjeli a nesnažili se, ač jsme na to byli všichni Veronikou upozorňováni, aby tuto skutečnost nahlásili pořadatelům.Pak samozřejmě vznikaly zmatky, nemohli jsme zjistit soupeře a byly zbytečné prostoje. Nehraji dlouho, asi třetí sezonu, ale tento nešfár se stále dokola opakuje.
Není tomu dávno, kdy jsem ještě hrával šachové turnaje, na kterých bylo naprostou samozřejmostí, že když hráč z různých důvodů předčasně bez omluvy odjel, nebyl do příštího ročníku turnaje přijatý. Možná pro někoho diskriminační, ale fungovalo to a hlavně to bylo v propozicích takto předem stanoveno.
Nikdy není nic dokonalého a proto přesto organizátorům za skvělý zážitek moc a moc děkuji.
Kamil.
Ahoj všichni,
Za chvíli se tu nejspíš objeví „oficiální“ omluva našeho klubu za některé věci, které se v sobotu nepovedly. Určitě i nějaké vysvětlení, že vše se opravdu zvládnout nedalo.
Konkrétně pro M. Fukala – příště Vám zajistíme transport z hřiště přímo k Vašemu zaparkovanému vozidlu. Jen potřebujeme vědět, kde přesně se budete nacházet, kolik minut před začátkem bouřky Vás (případně i zbytek Vašeho týmu) máme vyzvednout a zda budete chtít po skončení krupobití i odvézt zpátky na hřiště. Pokud by Vám tato nabídka nevyhovovala, samozřejmě můžeme zdarma zajistit hotelový pokoj. V takovém případě ale počítejte s drobným zpožděním při návratu. Za to se dopředu hluboce omlouváme.
Jakub
Je škoda, že sportovní stránku turnaje do značné míry překrývá velmi špatná úroveň cateringu. Při očekávaném tropickém počasí by dostatečná možnost zakoupení chlazených nápojů měla být jednou z priorit.
Celý turnaj od počátku až do samotného závěru provázeli náročné klimatické podmínky, ale i přesto byli v nádherných prostorách trojského zámku k vidění kvalitní sportovní výkony. Ostatně, ani půlnoční bouřka spojená s dalším poměrně silným deštěm, ani následný výpadek osvětlení nezabránili tomu, aby se mistrovství i přes to všechno dohrálo…:-)
Omlouvám se všem účastníkům letošního MČR 3×3 za nedostatky, které se vyskytly v průběhu turnaje.
Občerstveni bylo zvoleno na základě pozitivní zkušenosti z roku 2014, navíc jsme byli ještě dva dny před turnajem dodavatelem ujišťováni, že budou všechno zvládat, budou mít dostatek lidi a dostatek chlazených nápojů. Skutečnost byla bohužel jiná a projevila se zejména malou pružností při výdeji jídla. To potom způsobilo po ukončení hry ve skupinách pozdější zahájení navazujících turnajů A, B a C.
Další nepředpokládaný technický problém se vyskytl poté, co celý park pokryly miliony ledových košonků. Příval vody vyřadil z provozu ozvučení areálu a bylo obtížné zajistit informování účastníků turnaje.
Na druhou stranu bych chtěl poděkovat všem, kteří se na zajištění turnaje podíleli. Zejména pak Veronice, která koordinovala přípravu turnaje a zajistila prémiové ceny pro 3 nejúspěšnější týmy turnajů A,B,C.
Velice si vážím přístupu Honzy Resla a Milana Babiče při organizaci turnaje a dalších, kteří operativně pomáhali v náročných podmínkách po bouřce zajistit pokračování turnaje.
Poděkování patří také klubu Carreau Brno za zapůjčení a dovoz stanů a dalšího materiálu.
Také oceňuji snahu většiny účastníků turnaje o pokračování ve hře i při složitějších podmínkách.
Blahopřeji mistrům republiky k obhájení titulu a vítězům turnajů B a C k získání zajímavé ceny.
Pro JK
Předpokládám, že jen tak neplácáš do větru. Stači mi to těsně předem, pokud to potřebuješ upřesnit tak třeba 40 sekund. Můžeš zavolat na mobil (dám ti jeden s mým číslem, abych ti pošetřil kredit) a dopravit nás můžeš do nejbližší restaurace, abychom se za ten den alespoň trochu najedli. Dej vědět, kterého turnaje se to týká, ať si na něj udělám čas.
Díky za nabídku.
Milan
Ahoj všem,
ráda bych se též vyjádřila, abych vyrovnala negativní vyznění příspěvků. Myslím si, že organizačně zvládnout takovýto turnaj není vůbec jednoduchá záležitost a vyžaduje velice dlouhé přípravy. „Postavit“ pétanque areál na ne-pétanque místě a zajistit jej tak, aby mohl byť jen na den fungovat pro svůj účel, je náročná práce a já tímto děkuji organizátorům a jejich pomocníkům za to, jak to zvládli.
Při podobných velkých akcích se vždy musí počítat s tím, že se něco zvrtne. Kdo jezdí na turnaje pravidelně, ví, že to tak bývá skoro všude a skoro pokaždé. Nelze vyloučit technickou ani lidskou chybu, ale přesto bychom měli být tolerantní a nevnímat výhradně onen nedostatek, ale vidět spíš to, kolik se toho podařilo. Připouštím, že s cateringem jsem byla nespokojená už v r. 2014 (po dlouhém čekání na oběd šlo napůl syrové maso rovnou do koše) a letošní nemožnost nakoupit dostatek nesladkých nápojů byla opravdu velkým selháním; důležité však podle mého je se z chyb poučit, a to už podle příspěvků myslím popáčtí pořadatelé udělali a stravovací zázemí příštího mistrovství (bude-li nějaké příště :-) ) učitě zdokonalí.
Takže klobouk dolů před pořadateli a prosím, buďme tolerantní.
Sylva Mrázková
Milane,
Mj. i díky tvé reakci máme všichni chuť zase něco organizovat. Mobil si klidně nech, mám svůj a kredit nepoužívám. Milerád se nechám inspirovat na příštím MČR s bezmála třemi sty účastníky (pořádaném v prostorách, které máš pronajaté), které bude pod tvou taktovkou organizováno… Opravdu nechápu, co sis představoval, že mělo být zajištěno. Pokud hraju bez limitu a vidím, že každých 10 sekund je celá obloha osvětlena mohutným bleskem, po kterém bezprostředně následuje i hrom, dalo by se předpokládat, že nebudu pokračovat ve hře a vyhledám úkryt, třeba i ve svém autě. Ozvučení se začalo sklízet, vypínat a přemisťovat někam pod přístřešek pár minut před tím krupobitím a i tak se ho nepovedlo zcela ochránit od vody, takže po zbytek dne bylo vyřazeno z provozu (jestli ne nadobro :-/ ). Nebo jsi chtěl, aby všechna hřiště někdo obcházel a volal : „Schovejte se, lidičky, prší…“?!? Nejbližší restaurace je i tak docela daleko, ale pokud jsi se tam opravdu chtěl dostat, stačilo se zeptat, rádi bychom tě nasměrovali. To je za mě k tomu tvému komentáři na přístřešek asi všechno.
Jakub
Milanem se nenechte otrávit, ten umí akorát remcat. Taky se těším na ten jeho super turnaj, až nám všem vokáže, jak se to správně dělá.
Dobrý den,
jen bych chtěl napsat že jsem si turnaj poměrně užil i přes poměrně velké množství nepřesností. Bouřka byla super, doposud jsem něco takového nezažil a myslím že nebylo v moci pořadatelů na toto padání trakařů nějak dobře zareagovat, aspoň jsem si zablbnul. Co se týče občerstvení, tak jsem tu hlavní problematiku ani moc nepocítil, protože pivo nepiju a hamburgera jsem si stihl vyzvednout ještě v době, kdy bylo vše pod kontrolou a opravdu jsem si pochutnal, pro pití jsem si chodil do nedalekého krámu, tu možnost měl každý takže spokojenost. Každopádně bych si chtěl pobrečet alespoň nad tím, že jsme za 9 hodin odehráli pouhý jeden půlhodinový zápas, a to mi přijde strašně špatně i když organizačním záležitostem nerozumím, příště snad vhodnější volba systému. Den jsem si v tu chvíli snad nemohl užít jako sportovní, ale jako nějaké přežívání v extrémních podmínkách a všeobecně mě přišlo, že ten turnaj byl upřizpůsobený spíš pro 90 lidí, nikoliv pro 90 týmů ale to jen můj pohled na věc, takže i tak díky a zatím na viděnou :-)
Já si turnaj moc užila, ale taky jsem ráda, že jsem ho přežila – i s obsluhou zde zmiňovaného cateringu. Když jsem se spolu s pár hráči schovala před kroupami pod děravou střechu stánku, brzy jsem zjistila, že občerstvovacímu personálu i mně sahá voda po kotníky – a v ní se válí propojený prodlužovací elektrický kabel. Nechala jsem ho hned odpojit a tak vám všem – chválabohu – zachránila stejnou obsluhu pro příští rok :-) Jinak organizátoři dělali, co šlo, díky! A ještě: souhlasím s Kamilem – odjet a nenahlásit to, je nefér vůči soupeřům. Od juniorů navíc neúcta.
Catering byl hrozný, ale oni za to nemohli. Odpovídá za to pořadatel. Také se mi nelíbilo, že sahali na jídlo nemytýma, spocenýma rukama. Nejhorší MČR hned po Veveří. Opravdu to bylo pořadatelsky nezvládnuté a dosti lidem při těch kroupách šlo i o život.
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když pročítám diskuzi, tak se mi ježí všechny chlupy na těle. Jak může kdokoli chválit organizátory, leda ze soucitu! Srovnejte turnaj s jiným podobného charakteru za tyto peníze a nevyjde Vám nic než ostuda až na půdu. Jediné co bylo fajn bylo místo. K rádoby cirkusácké bandě připravující něco jako jídlo: Stál jsem hodinu a padesát minut ve frontě. Smutně jsem koukal, jak si pán zapálí cigaretku, paní si vezme lístečky od teamu ( 5min se nic neděje) po dokouření cigaretky tam chlap dá na gril pouze 3 kousky placek masa, které tou rukou od vajglu nabere z bedny třikrát si s ní utře pot a po 10 minutách rituál opakuje s novými lístečky a samozřejmě s malou pauzičkou, aby se neunavil. Když jsem konečně vystál frontu tak mi pán od masových placek (Burgr bych tomu neřekl, protože každý, kdo si ho někdy dělal doma si ho musel udělat lépe) řekl, že mi je neudělá, že má problém s elektrikou. Na to jsem se ho ptal k čemu potřebuje elektriku, když má opravdu velký plynový gril.( Zbytek rozhovoru byly pouze urážky, což jsem už nechápal vůbec proč mě ten pán uráží.) No nevadí vydal jsem se za organizátory, konkrétně to byl pan Kraus a ptám se jestli mi vrátí nějaké peníze ze startovného, když mi nebylo umožněno se najíst. Odpověď byla že ano, tak si říkám super. Čert to vem ty 2 hodiny ve frontě a velice inteligentní personál. Jelikož jsem měl ještě tak 2 hodinky do dalšího zápasu šel jsem do nejbližší restaurace si dát konečně jídlo. Dal jsem si výborné pečené koleno. Po návratu mě však čekalo překvapení v podobě toho, že když si jdu tedy pro peníze , na které jsem si musel počkat až dohraje pokladní mi však bylo řečeno, že ne nic mi nevrátí, že už prý zas grilují. – No tak usmál jsem se. Myslím, že jsem dost klidný člověk a nemám potřebu se po někom vozit. Ale doufám, že turnaj tohoto formátu bude příště organizován lépe a jinými pořadateli. Je to můj názor a pokud se někomu nelíbí tak pardon ale chválit tady není co.
Tak zase jednou turnaj a článek, kde je více kritiků a emocí než gratulantů. Jindro, Petře, Alice, obrovská gratulace k obhajobě titulu. V extrémních podmínkách úctyhodný sportovní výkon. A ještě pár poznámek k turnaji. Ani nám se ledacos nelíbilo, catering byla opravdu hrůza , ale sami jsme často v roli pořadatelů a tak se připojuji ke slovům Sylvy. Buďme tolerantní. Všichni kdo organizujeme turnaje a stravování řešíme dodavatelsky víme, že se jedná o sázku do loterie. Dodavatel může selhat a na místě už se s tím nedá nic dělat. Postavit boulodrom na zelené louce za pár hodin je výkon a ne každý by do toho vůbec šel. Pokud budeme jen kritizovat, pak se s Trojou příště můžeme rozloučit, protože už se nenajde nikdo, kdo by riskoval následnou kritiku. Počasí také nikdo neovlivní a schovat v zahradách 300 lidí prostě nelze. Takže pro mne byla asi nejhorší časová stránka. Jednotlivé větve turnaje se rozjely v řádech hodin a jsem přesvědčena, že hlavně vinou některých neukázněných týmů. Nepochopily, že bez časového limitu neznamená až se mi bude chtít. Díky tomuto nesportovnímu přístupu bych zvolila jiný systém hry. Dále považuji za naprostou idiotštinu výběr a kontrolu licencí. Vzhledem k tomu, že na turnaj MČR nebo prestige se bez licence ani nejde přihlásit, je to byrokracie hraničící s hloupostí. Při registraci devadesáti týmů na takto časově náročném turnaji, je zdržování a řešení chybějících podpisů na licencích trochu přehnané. Je-li to v souladu s řády, pak by stálo za to, se nad příslušným článkem zamyslet
Já úplně žasnu nad tím, jak je někdo schopný kritizovat a nepodepsat se… to jste tedy borci.
Alice, Petře a Jindro gratuluji hráli jste skvěle !!!
Asi začíná doba kdy se bude pouze jenom kritizovat.V Troji občerstvení bylo katastrofa, paní nepříjemná, hygiena viděna jen z rychlíku je to smutné a pro POP jistě poučení, že příště – jestli vůbec nějaké příště bude, když se na ně valí kritika, sáhnou po jiné partě, která to zvládne mnohem lépe.
Pořádat takovýto velký turnaj chce odvahu a stojí za tím mnoho hodin práce a trpělivosti. Nemyslím si, že by to byl propadák, bohužel počasí bylo jaké bylo, to se nedá ovlivnit. Spíše bych apelovala, na ty kteří bez odhlášení odjeli přestože byli na zahájení poproseni aby tak učinili. To je takový problém říct, sorry nehraji jedu dom, škrtni si mě. Na každém systému je něco, kdyby byl švýcar, tak se někteří jedinci budou vztekat, že nemají čas na přesunutí na hřiště vzhledem k velkému areálu. Každý kdo kritizuje by si měl takovouto akci zkusit a pak házet rozumy.
Ale když chceš psa bíti, hůl si vždycky najdeš… že? A proto po každém turnaji budeme kritizovat vše co se dá, aby to nezašlo tak daleko, že budeme remcat nad barvou kolíčků…POPáci nic si z těch hnidopichů co turnaj neuspořádají a jenom kritizují nic nedělejte a nenechte si otrávit čas ať už při pétanque, nebo teď po turnaji který pro vás ještě úplně neskončil…
Dobre odpoledne vsem,
v prvni rade upozornuju, ze pisu sama za sebe a je to ciste muj nazor.
Chtela jsem napsat uz driv, ale nejdriv jsem potrebovala vychladnout a rozdychat sobotni cateringovou katastrofu. Ono to hodne zamrzi, kdyz nekolik mesicu pripravuju turnaj a resim kazdou malickost, vcetne vyberu obcerstveni, opravdu peclive. Samozrejme, nikdy nebudou spokojeni vsichni, ale tenhle dodavatel se jevil jako idealni volba jelikoz jsme pred dvouma rokama nezaznamenali zadne vyraznejsi problemy, od ty doby jsem se stejnym dodavatelem absolvovala nekolik akci mimo petanque, a kazdy normalni clovek se pouci a to, co neklapalo predtim, vychyta. No, kazdy asi ne.. Pro me velke pouceni s kym uz nespolupracovat, vam vsem obrovska omluva. Ale porad nevim jak zabezpecit to, ze nekdo jiny v budoucnu neudela pruser taky. Samozrejme, jsou vyhlasene firmy, ktere nemaji problem a rozhodne by nic z toho, co jsme videli v sobotu nenastalo. Je ale potreba si uvedomit, ze jsme v hlavnim meste v sezone koupalist, festivalu a ruznych outdoorovych akci a turnaj v petanque, kde se od stankare chce, aby tam cucel 16 hodin a mel tam 300 lidi, jednoduse neni ekonimicky zajimave.
Dalsi vec, ktera nam podrazila nohy, bylo pocasi. Nejen, ze spousta hracu promokla, dostala par ran nejvetsima kroupama jake jsem kdy videla, ale jeste nam to vyradilo z provozu ozvuceni, ktere pak hodne chybelo. Strecha pro 300 lidi by sice byla fajn, ale pokud bychom trvali na tom, ze turnaje muzou byt jen tam, kde se vsichni maji jak schovat, muzeme organizovat tak v 1/10 arealu v republice :/
A do tretice mili hraci, jste to byli vy, kdo zbytecne prodluzoval turnaj. A ted nemluvim o tech, co stali frontu na piti nebo jidlo. Ale par jedincu se rozhodlo, ze jsou na vylete a misto toho, aby hrali zapasy, odesli si radsi na zmrzku a prohlidku zamku. Pripadne se nasli takovi, co se jeli domu prevliknout. Nebo dalsi, co se jim jednoduse nechtelo jit hrat hned, ale az po pivku a cigaru. Bohuzel ale ani souperi casto nebyli tak disciplinovani, aby sli nahlasit, ze na nekoho cekaji a ten nechodi, ale cekali a cekali a cekali.. A to organizator opravdu nema jak vypozorovat, ze nekde nekdo nehraje, kdyz je najednou rozehranych 30-40 zapasu..
A zaverem, turnaj v troji jsem chtela organizovat kvuli lidem a pro lidi. pro to, ze je to krasne prostredi a turnaj tam patri. Proto, ze tady u nas malokdy hrajeme opravdu petanque do 13ti bodu cely turnaj. Pro to, ze petanque mam rada a myslim si, ze kdyz 27 tydnu v roce prijdu nekam na turnaj a je o me postarano, ten 28. tyden udelam neco pro lidi ja. Ano, je pravda, ze turnaj se nevydaril a kritiku si zaslouzi. Ale je zajimave, ze nejvic kritizujou ti, co nikdy nic nezorganizovali a pravidelne si jen stezuji, nikdy jsem od nich nevidela zadnou pochvalu. Po klavesnici to jezdi, ale pod nazor se spousta lidi nepodepise.. Radsi anonymne, co kdyby nahodou, ze?
Jestli si nekdo mysli, ze za spoustu penez nedostal nic a ja mam ted plne kapsy, rada komukoliv poslu rozpocet turnaje. Protoze pro penize jsme to nedelali, v pokladne zustalo par stovek (a to neni nahoda, s tim jsem do toho sla-to co se vyzbiralo na startovnem, slo spatky lidem v ruznych formach od pronajmu, pres snidani az po zapujcene vybaveni…)
Kdo se docetl az sem, dekuju. Dekuju taky vsem, co vydrzeli, vytrvali, zahrali si a ocenili pozitiva.
Ládíku, tvůj tým je vedle :-)
Já bych se rád podepsal ale bohužel to opravdu nejde je k tomu hodně důvodu a akorát bych způsobil problémy, které by zasáhli především klub. Neni to žádna sranda pořádat velký turnaj. Vím to z vlastni zkusenosti ale když má to nemam tak to ne pořádám za Valence to bylo uplnene jine. . Chce se mi brečet co se poslední dobou děje. … už to neni ten starej petanque když u toho byla sranda a všichni byly v pohodě. Ted se všichni u honí pouze za bodama aby jim náhodou někdo ne zabral pozici reprezentace a žebříček neni adekvátní. Ted spatky k tomuto turnaji : me to hlavně zamrzelo. .. za počasí nikdo nemůže ale postavit par přístřešku by určíte nemel byt problém. .. Ale je to pouze Můj názor a myslím si že spousta lidi si myslí to podobne
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Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.
Sorry for the huge review, but I’m really loving the new Zune, and hope this, as well as the excellent reviews some other people have written, will help you decide if it’s the right choice for you.
Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass‘ favor.
Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.
Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.
This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‚Mixview‘ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of „neighbors“ will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune „Social“ is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.
If you’re still on the fence: grab your favorite earphones, head down to a Best Buy and ask to plug them into a Zune then an iPod and see which one sounds better to you, and which interface makes you smile more. Then you’ll know which is right for you.
This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‚Mixview‘ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of „neighbors“ will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune „Social“ is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.
Sorry for the huge review, but I’m really loving the new Zune, and hope this, as well as the excellent reviews some other people have written, will help you decide if it’s the right choice for you.
I’ll gear this review to 2 types of people: current Zune owners who are considering an upgrade, and people trying to decide between a Zune and an iPod. (There are other players worth considering out there, like the Sony Walkman X, but I hope this gives you enough info to make an informed decision of the Zune vs players other than the iPod line as well.)
This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‚Mixview‘ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of „neighbors“ will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune „Social“ is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.
Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.
Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.
Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.
Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.
The Zune concentrates on being a Portable Media Player. Not a web browser. Not a game machine. Maybe in the future it’ll do even better in those areas, but for now it’s a fantastic way to organize and listen to your music and videos, and is without peer in that regard. The iPod’s strengths are its web browsing and apps. If those sound more compelling, perhaps it is your best choice.
Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass‘ favor.
Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass‘ favor.
Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass‘ favor.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.
The Zune concentrates on being a Portable Media Player. Not a web browser. Not a game machine. Maybe in the future it’ll do even better in those areas, but for now it’s a fantastic way to organize and listen to your music and videos, and is without peer in that regard. The iPod’s strengths are its web browsing and apps. If those sound more compelling, perhaps it is your best choice.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
Sorry for the huge review, but I’m really loving the new Zune, and hope this, as well as the excellent reviews some other people have written, will help you decide if it’s the right choice for you.
This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‚Mixview‘ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of „neighbors“ will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune „Social“ is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.
If you’re still on the fence: grab your favorite earphones, head down to a Best Buy and ask to plug them into a Zune then an iPod and see which one sounds better to you, and which interface makes you smile more. Then you’ll know which is right for you.
Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass‘ favor.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass‘ favor.
This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‚Mixview‘ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of „neighbors“ will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune „Social“ is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.
Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass‘ favor.
Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.
I’ll gear this review to 2 types of people: current Zune owners who are considering an upgrade, and people trying to decide between a Zune and an iPod. (There are other players worth considering out there, like the Sony Walkman X, but I hope this gives you enough info to make an informed decision of the Zune vs players other than the iPod line as well.)
I’ll gear this review to 2 types of people: current Zune owners who are considering an upgrade, and people trying to decide between a Zune and an iPod. (There are other players worth considering out there, like the Sony Walkman X, but I hope this gives you enough info to make an informed decision of the Zune vs players other than the iPod line as well.)
Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
The new Zune browser is surprisingly good, but not as good as the iPod’s. It works well, but isn’t as fast as Safari, and has a clunkier interface. If you occasionally plan on using the web browser that’s not an issue, but if you’re planning to browse the web alot from your PMP then the iPod’s larger screen and better browser may be important.
This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‚Mixview‘ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of „neighbors“ will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune „Social“ is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.
I’ll gear this review to 2 types of people: current Zune owners who are considering an upgrade, and people trying to decide between a Zune and an iPod. (There are other players worth considering out there, like the Sony Walkman X, but I hope this gives you enough info to make an informed decision of the Zune vs players other than the iPod line as well.)
Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.
This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‚Mixview‘ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of „neighbors“ will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune „Social“ is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.
Apple now has Rhapsody as an app, which is a great start, but it is currently hampered by the inability to store locally on your iPod, and has a dismal 64kbps bit rate. If this changes, then it will somewhat negate this advantage for the Zune, but the 10 songs per month will still be a big plus in Zune Pass‘ favor.
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